Tucker Carlson × Russell Brand: христианское обращение, уголовный процесс в Великобритании, бросок в мэры Лондона и критика Трампа

I'm ready. Heavenly Father, thank you for this chance for us to be together where two or more have gathered you are present, Lord. Can you help us to put aside any prejudices or biases that we might carry into it? Can you help me, Lord, not to look at Tucker as a person that exists for my benefit or to facilitate me, but to know that he is, like me, a person that's broken and that will die one day and that we're here to love one another and serve one another. And by the way we love one another, they will know that we are in you and that you are in us, Lord. Let's communicate graciously and with grace and do nothing that dishonors your name or your kingdom, which we are here to serve however you decree. We pray in the name of God the Father with all your infinite creativity and wisdom, God the Son with your compassion and your holy sacrifice taking on our sin, and God the Holy Ghost who moves among us mysteriously now in communication and endless unity. Amen. Amen. Thank you. Boy, that is the prayer, isn't it? Not to look at people as someone who can do something for you. Yeah, sort of objectify even powerful people. So you were just reading me, because I want to talk about your book and I want to talk about your journey as a Christian, and we will, but I just can't resist this. You were just reading me from Daniel in your marginalia-filled Bible from Daniel 11, and I was just so struck by it. I took a picture of it and sent it to like 20 people. Can you read the passage that you just read me? It's from Daniel 11, 36. The king will do as he pleases. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard of things against the god of gods. Would you like me to continue?

Please. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been determined must take place. He will show no regard for the gods of his ancestors or for the one desired by women, nor will he regard any god but will exalt himself above them all. Instead of them, he will honor a god of fortresses, a god unknown to his ancestors. He will honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts. He will attack the mightiest fortresses with the help of a foreign god and will greatly honor those who acknowledge him. He will make them rulers over many people and will distribute the land at a price. At the time of the end, the king of the south will engage him in battle and the king of the north will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood. He will also invade the beautiful land. Many countries will fall, but Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from his hand. He will extend his power over many countries. Egypt will not escape. He will gain control over the treasures of gold and silver and all the riches of Egypt, with the Libyans and the Cushites in submission. But reports from the east and the north will alarm him and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many. He will pitch his royal tents between the seas, the beautiful holy mountain. Yet he will come to his end and no one will help him. ripped from the headlines. That was just so striking to me. Shocking, actually. I've read it. I don't want to completely miss that. It hits differently right now. How often do you read the Bible? Well, every day. I was reading the Bible in one year by Nicky Gumbel and obviously the Bible's not by Nicky Gumbel. But I'm sure he would come close to making that claim as many Christians do. Sometimes I feel like I've made it up. I'm brilliant. Even now, I'm trying to take credit for reading this out. Yep, I've understood this in a way no one else ever has.

Anyway, so I started off with that, which is like having training wheels on a bicycle and then I left it on a plane and I thought, wow, I'm going to have to just start reading it. Now, every day I read the scripture for about an hour and I pray and meditate as well as reading some devotionals and doing some breath exercise. I remember when I met years ago, His Holiness for Dalai Lama, someone said like, you know, oh, he meditates like eight hours a day and I thought, well, that seems excessive. But now, like, what else is there to do except be in continual prayer? Increasingly as my walk with him, yoke to him continues, I recognize any time I let go of his hand, any time I step back into even neutrality, neutrality metastasizes immediately into self and therefore sin. I see sin now, Tucker, not as the transgression of stealing or lying or whatever, but as the mental state that precedes it. When I'm in that mental state, suddenly I elevate myself like Lucifer, like the fallen one. I think I can create my own circuitry, my own neurological circuitry without his angelic agency. as soon as I'm in that, I belong to the world again. I belong to empire.

Forget the tyranny of those most powerful people in the world. Even in my petty trivial tyranny, I bear their insignature, not his. It was you, in fact, that made the observation. One of the times we met, I think I was doing one of your tremendously successful and well-attended live shows in Fort Lauderdale. I'm still showbiz. I still know how to do those bits. And like we were, I showed you this bit from Orwell and you said, oh, well, you said, Orwell's anticipate, this is prior to the most recent American electoral cycle. You said that Orwell understood Soviet communism well. And at this point, you said in 1984, he's talking about social democracy's tendency to evolve towards, or degenerate, one might say, towards tyranny. And we discussed together, oh, wow, what is Orwell's most famous maxim? If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever. And in that moment, I think both you and I discussed, yes, and what is the face? That is the image of God. They are annihilating the image of God. They remove the image of God. Once the image of God, our personal imputure, our signature, the hieroglyph, he's present in us, the creator of meaning, without whom there cannot be geometry, mathematics or music, but even meaning itself. He is a storyteller, our Lord. He comes and tells stories to show you that meaning itself is what we must align with. Because, you know, when people say, oh, it's astrological, the three kings and the virgin is the star virgin. It's an astrological description of movements. And Osiris was this, and Isis was that, and Dionysus meant that, you know, and they try to say that Christianity isn't unique, particular and special, that the incarnation of God, that these principles being made flesh didn't establish the new frequency, through the Holy Spirit. They tried to say, it's just another story. When you go into the word, you feel it, you know it, it changes you. It reverses and undoes so much. Your whole life, C.S. Lewis says, Tucker, your whole life is redeemed.

You look back at all of it. The father, and you see it differently. The career, you see it differently. You see that you were being prepared always for this. And C.S. Lewis says in the great divorce, when you accept him, your whole life will have been heaven. If you reject him, you are in purgatory forever. And why do they stay in purgatory in the great divorce? I'm recommending read the great divorce. It's because they won't let go of their earthly identity. They won't let go of it. We have to let go of that. In order to receive the kingdom, we have to let go of who we are in shame, who we are in fear, who we are to the world. And once you do that, you're kind of already dead, but you're also in eternal life. And that's what's been amazing about watching you in the last month, in particular, is a sort of the jaw-dropping boldness and bravery that sometimes can seem like frightening. Well, not to me. I've never felt calmer.

But no, I, yeah, I mean, I just don't care at all. Why would I? Nothing, I mean, you know, winning the thing, the prizes that are held out for us. I haven't won them all. Won a few. Not that great. You know, it's not that great. That's not why we're here. So, but the, you've been a reader your entire life, even when you were like a dissipate in Hollywood, you still read a lot. How is reading the Bible different from reading Evelyn Wall? Well, how it's different. Firstly, I've not read Evelyn Wall. What? That's your birthright. Are you kidding? I'm lazy. I'm an autodidact. And like, you know, Woody Allen, he says with the autodidact, superficial, I've never been properly educated. So everything's thin across the top. This is the first time I've gone deep into anything. How it's different. How it's different, Tucker, from what I've accrued culturally is that it moves effortlessly into mystery. It is divine and profound truth. Now, I think that one of the conversations we might have is if you think during the brief time that you and I have both, I'm going to say the word transitioned now, but don't panic, transitioned from mainstream media into whatever this is, this kind of independent media, what that's been accompanied by. If one envisages a spectrum and at one end of it, the New York Times, the BBC, MSNBC, one might even include Fox and more sort of particular flavors of mainstream media. And over here, you're Alex Jones, you're David Icke. Where is the needle moving?

Well, it's obviously moving radically in a direction that Alex Jones and David Icke have been in for some time. That's not to say that either of those two men are without flaws, of course. I wouldn't make that claim for any human being. But during that time, people have started to look at pedophile rings, conspiracies, global events that seem to be managed and manipulated, the possibility and potential that real power is not government or party political, but is in fact controlled by institutions that are imperial, transcendent of global boundaries, and may even be occultist and dark and demonic. I mean, certainly the trend is moving in that direction. And I think one of the great challenges for people that are telling the truth at a public level to a lot of people is how do we remain in that which is corroboratable? And what I feel is so important here is when you're dealing with people that might say, there are demonic forces at work, they're occultists, they're pedophiles, they're doing child sacrifices. Well, it's all in here. Like when I, prior to coming to the Lord, or rather more accurately, Him coming to me, I felt I knew what was in the Bible because I thought I understood. I didn't read it, but I thought, I get the idea. I'm a clever guy. I get the gist. I felt the same. Yeah. And like, so I felt it's going to be about ethics and morality and sort of a kind of a rather, obviously piety, but I sort of felt that it might be a bit anemic. But what was, what's really struck me is it moves between sort of like myths so powerful that it takes you to the sort of edge of what consciousness can ever comprehend, obviously, while telling you that's what it's doing. my ways are not your ways.

Do not conform to the patterns of this world. The evil one is in control of this world. We fight not against flesh and blood, but we fight against the authorities, the rulers, the dark heavenly powers. All these things are in there. My children, don't worship false idols. Don't make gods with your own hands out of metal and then stare at them the whole time. Like, you will glimpse God as if through a glass or perhaps for contemporary language, as if through a mirror, darkly. It'll be like you're looking at yourself and you see that Christ is in you and coming through you. But then you will return to yourself again. You will flick it in and out. Like, see, the promise of Christ is redemption. That means you are owned by him and there is a restoration of the original state. It has been completed. Our God breathed life into the dirt man, Adam, and Christ on the cross exhales the final breath. It is finished. It's possible for us to return to absolute harmony with God, for us to live not in some utopian afterlife, but in the present moment, to be in the kingdom of heaven, which our Lord said is here, ever present and all around us. I did not anticipate the depth of the mystery, that we live among forces undiscernible to the senses, angelic and indeed demonic, that there are dark energies that are affecting us and impacting us and attacking us and significantly controlling the most powerful institutions in the world. And that is not North Korea. so it's rare these days, a company that actually makes things here in the U.S., not just designed here or assembled here, actually manufactured here, start to finish in the United States. Brooklyn Bedding builds every mattress in their factory in Arizona, not in the Far East, in Arizona, no middlemen, no cutting corners, no outsourcing to save a buck. The founders started with nothing, no degree, no corporate backing, just learned the craft, built a factory, created a product that actually works. That's the American story. We ought to support it and we do. And here we love the Thermo Balance mattress collection. It's made a huge difference on the quality of the sleep of a lot of people who work here. No more waking up hot in the middle of the night thanks to their cooling technology.

Your back feels better when you wake up. They're endorsed, in fact, by the American Chiropractic Association. So it's not just marketing, it's real. They also give you 120 nights to try it out. That's a lot. If you don't love it, they take it back or swap it out, no hassle. That's how confident they are. Visit brooklynbedding.com, use the promo code TUCKER at checkout for 30% off site-wide. This offer, not available anywhere else. And that's the story told in the Bible. Yeah. So now that you know that and believe it, and I believe it too, in fact, I believe it to such an extent it's kind of hard to remember when I didn't believe it. But as you look back on your own now-redeemed life, do you see those forces that work on you? Yes. I see the work of those forces and I see the presence of God. I see continually this unfolding discourse throughout time, my own little life. I see I'm being shown this, I'm being offered that. You know, one of the things I'd forgotten, Tucker, is that at the point of first becoming famous, there was a kind of glory in it. And by true glory, I don't mean personal glory, because anything that's personal is not true glory at all.

There was a moment where a world that continually said no to me suddenly, after decades, said yes. That suddenly the golden light was upon me and open. That I was appearing on television, people were saying yes to book deals, I was in movies, I was experiencing, and this is where I think I went wrong, abundant sex, for example. And as that took hold, that's where I feel and see the presence. That I, you know, the tempter, the accuser, the fallen one, the enemy, requires our complicity. I did participate. I did participate in elevating false gods. I did allow sex to become a kind of idol, fame to become an idol. And neither of those things are possible if you don't first fall into self. I consider sin to be in self. In self. Once I'm in self, the sibilant S, lacking vocal. The serpent has no vertical axes. I crawl upon the floor. I'm only a belly. We're continually in the garden and we're continually, as René Girard obviously observed, observing Satan fall from heaven like lightning because he wants his own kingdom. I'm continually believing the lie, the lie that I'm worthless, the lie that I'm ugly, the lie that I'm shameful, the lie that I don't deserve to be successful. I enter into that lie and once I'm in that lie, then I belong to the world. Now I have to prove myself in the world. I have to make myself beautiful, lauded and applauded, celebrated, adored. I have to perform all of those rituals before his altar if I don't stay with the one that made me. It's an apostasy to be in this world. You don't convert to Christianity. You let go of the false conversion of being in this world where you have been placed by the evil one, by the enemy, lured, tempted, hypnotized.

We all understand it. We all understand the idea of facsimile, the counterfeit, the emulation, the simulation. You know, see when people posit about the sci-fi version, perhaps we're already in a simulation. You don't need to use that lexicon. Through the electromagnetic moment where sensory information is converted neurologically, and that happens to all sensory input, you live in a synthesized reality in your own consciousness. There are peculiar, inexplicable moments as with all scientific disciplines when you take it to its edge land, i.e. between the synapses as electromagnetic energy travels around in the brain, there's a moment where it's hormonal. It's inexplicable. We're surrounded in every direction by endless miracle which we nullify through dumb orthodox science as we witnessed at length and in depth through the pandemic. We deny him continually. We are continually Eve. We are continually Lucifer. Why does our Lord say when the hubristic disciples return saying, we moved among scorpions.

We were casting out demons. He says straight away and it's an odd non sequitur. I saw Satan fall from heaven. like lightning. You will move among demons. You will move among scorpions and snakes and do great healings because your names are written in the book of heaven. What can that even mean? You are encoded. You are encoded. You are made. Did you see that it looks like a cross at some microscopically observable level? There's a cross down in our DNA. There's so much poetry in it. of course it's interpreted because interpretation is relationship. Of course people will say, you can use the Bible to prove anything you want to prove. But one of my teachers said the main things are the plain things and the plain things are the main things. We're meant to live here harmoniously with one another. We're meant to be one human family. You have to accept Christ as the Messiah. If there's any particular group of people that deliberately do not accept Christ as the Messiah, you might want to investigate that thoroughly and there's instructions for how to do that in there. You know, there's some powerful information in here that must be acted upon. Now from the other side, from the countercultural perspective, they'll say, oh, this is, you know, it's the Council of Nicaea and all that kind of stuff. And I'm thinking now of like the sort of the people that you, surely we must pay our due to the likes of Ike and Alex Jones who clearly are carrying, not Alex Jones actually because he's so sort of in the moment, isn't he? But David Ike, I feel that he carries this weight of, I've been saying this for ages. I've been saying this for ages. But what he doesn't do with love and respect to him is honor that Christ is real, real, that this is a transcendent manifesto of all reality. The author of reality entered into his own story. The creator of the simulation entered into the simulation to establish a new way of communicating and being.

And I think, to forgive this ramble, is I think that what we're trying to do is look at anodyne and sanitary Christianity and look at where it needs to be revived and reignited, then we're looking at a conspiracy culture that's endlessly carooming and tangled. We have to look at these two worlds and recognize that the same thing is being approached. And without the cross, without him, without personal acceptance of him, we'll just end up critiquing without energizing. We'll end up in dead tradition, just ashes and incense. And we have to revivify this now. We have to participate in the resurrection. He says, I am the resurrection. He says that when he brings back Lazarus. Can I ask, just to move back a couple moments, about your, you said you pray as you read. What are your, what is that? What is prayer exactly? I'm trying to recognize that there is a subjective experience and we might be told an objective experience and through prayer collapse that. The kind of Christianity that I feel like I've been called to is a kind of a quantum physics Christianity. And of course, I don't understand quantum physics. No one does because it's sort of unknowable. But what seems to be real is that the process of observation alters physical reality. It is smallest observable, at the smallest observable level. So in prayer, it's an incantation to become who you really are and to be in absolute truth and to recognize as with Paul's great analogy that we move in and out of Christ. Like that there are moments like now I feel alright. I feel like I'm doing this properly. I feel like I'm not trying to get anything from you and I'm not trying, I'm not frantically panicking about what other people think of me. But I know there will be points over the course of the day where I'll experience either temptation or intimidation and in those moments I'll lose myself. Prayer is to ensure that we establish such a strong connection with God that it can withstand that we can sleep in the storm with Him. That when the storm comes and we know it's coming that we can rest in the boat in total trust and faith in Him. Oh, jail. Okay, jail. Assassination. Okay, assassination. Like that you, when you no longer belong to the devil, when you belong to Him, then as Paul says, like I'm only here to talk to you lot. I'll go now. I want to be with Him. I want to see His face. I want to see His face. I love Him. But I know at the moment I'm meant to be here to be with you, to love you, to train with you, to be in discipleship and training together with you. I don't question that. It's not our job to question it. So prayer is to collapse it, to collapse it, to collapse the wave particle, to live in the unknowable, to recognize that we are being made pure in Him and through Him, that in and of ourselves we do nothing. We do nothing. We saw what we did when we were in sin and He loved us then. I have a vision of you in DC and I know because you've told me and you've been honest about it, cocaine and the things that I assume accompany that and He loved you then and He died for you then and He brought that shame onto Himself that you may know Him and then when you are not, He can't be with us when we're in sin. When we're not in sin, there He is. The Holy Spirit will dwell in you. Do you not know that your body is a temple? Do you not know? Oh God, you've not realized. You pass odds. Otherwise, you wouldn't be living like that. Your body is for me to live in. Stop using it to get stuff.

Stop putting pleasure on its sensory surfaces to try and defibrillate some synthetic spiritual experience when you're already here. You're already here. I'm here in you. He's here. He's here and He's real now. So it's quite psychedelic and the problem is if I'm hungry or I'm horny or I'm afraid then they've got me again and so now I try to do whatever I need to do to not go back there and it anticipates all of that. It tells me the flesh is weak. It has so much guidance around sexual morality. It has so much guidance around power and false power. It's telling you this is what I intended you for but I had to give you free will otherwise the whole thing would be pointless. It wouldn't have time in it. If there was no free will it doesn't even need to happen because it's a foregone conclusion. Right, exactly. But through His grace and through His greatness we are participating in something but don't you see aren't they even now observing what they are calling large structures? Aren't they even observing that the cosmos there's intergalactic influence? Did you see Randall Carlson the other day sort of say that maybe things that are happening on our planet are influenced by other galaxies like it's not because you know cows are far in or because cars are going too quickly or not the wrong type. No, we're in an intergalactic eternal and infinite poem with him. We've got a new partner.

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So go to cowboycolostrum.com use the code Tucker at checkout 25% off when you use that code Tucker at cowboycolostrum.com remember you mentioned you heard it here first. All systems of power attempt to impose a narrative that facilitates their further power. I realized after you but like I realized that the problem with the kind of imperialism that would have occurred if Kamala Harris had been president is it's globalist and it's bureaucratic and it's managerial and they use compassion to maximize total control. I was not you know everyone's got 20-20 hindsight but like you know the videos exist. I think Trump is an extraordinarily enjoyable public figure. I think he says what's on his mind in a way that's sort of almost unprecedented but it's certainly seeming to become somewhat unpresidential in addition. What I didn't enter into was the idea that Trump could be anything other than a bulwark against the annihilation of bureaucratic global imperialism. That's because I think a personality like that can slow things down and I think it's an obstacle but the thing that's particularly disheartening about this war and I know that you spoke about it extensively prior to the election of Trump with the Iranian war is that this war would be happening if Kamala Harris was president anyway. That's what like that's my very distant hazy I'm not really in this view is oh if someone as particular personal and extraordinary on the human plane as Trump ultimately ends up doing what the globalist imperialist would have done anyway then what are we all discussing when we're talking about America first and MAGA and all of that stuff. So what I'm saying there is global bureaucracies is a terrible instantiation of Satan's counterfeit power omnipotence omniscience omnipresence through technology absolute ownership nationalism I thought would instill a temporary preservation at least of the nation but the nation is corruptible and is corrupted and is fallen and now I think the call is and you seem to understand it I know you understand it historically and geopolitically and politically and nationally and domestically and I would run out of words in all of those ways but what I know as a Christian is that there is something about your sovereignty in absolute submission to him that we need to tell people there is something in the principle of democracy when practiced correctly using the maximum technological efficiency that gives us the chance to live truthfully we can't live in this loopy lunatic illusion any longer of moving between false polarities that appear ultimately to have an ulterior or at least superior power that directs them regardless of the mandate offered through some phatic electoral process I don't I know you can double the speed of a YouTube video I don't know if you can cut it in half because I want everyone to hear every word that you just said because I think they're inspired words and I think that they're all true and I won't summarize but I just ask people to re-watch what you just said in case they missed all of it the first time I'm good at listening to fast talking so I caught every word I think you're absolutely right and so let me just rephrase what I think you said we spent all this time trying to construct a defense against what was clearly happening to us in the west maybe the world which was this globalist totalitarian nightmare only to awake to realize actually we may have been participating unknowingly in the creation of it just from the other side where does that leave us what's our duty now if we had any faith in any personality or person other than Christ it's only in him like that what I was kept thinking about today is let people like that verse that's like by the way we love one another let them know that we're Christian so my job while I'm here I know you're in Christ and my job is to love you that's my job here and with my friends Dave and Jake that I'm traveling with and beloved Lexi and the people that I'm familiar with just to be loving and present with them and that's my primary job I can do that and when I notice myself stopping doing that which I will do because I'll get hungry or something then to intervene with myself as best I can by honoring and knowing my weakness now I didn't believe that and I don't believe that there is any political figure operating within current systems that is going to bring about the type of change that's required to at least forestall total annihilation I don't see anyone Gavin Newsom AOC Bernie JD and in fact what I was saying around 2015 when I first stepped out of what you might call vanilla celebrity and into political opining even though my vanilla celebrity was shellacked in a particular kind of louche decadence when I stepped into because I had a girlfriend at the time that was involved with a new statesman and so I did an addition of the new statesman British one might say Fabian kind of sort of fetishizing leftist ideas in order to create centralized bureaucracies that will never deliver to the people that they purport to care about the famed ordinary Brit or average American that poor bunch of chattel churned and tossed about on the storm of any passing breeze or fad anyway so I said yes to this thing and like man I knew a lot of famous people back then like Alec Baldwin David Lynch that I we we dude out of China who just said that he went back to his native China I think I'm saying his name right he went back there he's like super famous and the left love him and like he left as a dissident from China and lived in Germany for a while and he's apparently a very brilliant artist I didn't know that I think he did the cover along with Shepard Fairey the ardent democrat supporting American artist so we went back to China he goes Germany's worse than China like there's more centralized control manipulation less freedom of speech than China this guy's a darling of the left type figure anyway so when I was doing that new statesman thing that's when I did an accompanying promotional interview with our defining show was Jeremy Paxman's news night Jeremy Paxman was Fox News Tucker he was like the guy that people got off on like watching that dude mess with politicians I'm not talking about like you know he'd probably be more liberal left than you were sort of a traditional conservative during your sort of Fox pomp and heyday but we got the same commodity from him Jeremy Paxman would sit there with a home secretary and just go come on like he was more bombastic you know that time like oh no I get why you think it no you just don't want us to have guns but you have them no I get it I do it like he had great stuff no I get it I get it I loved all that like so but when I went on there right it what was cool is even I was 33 or 45 much younger and I just said none of my friends vote we never vote and he's like oh come on you can't talk about politics if you don't vote you've got no right to be in the conversation and I said like what are you talking about I see you every week on here attacking politicians for being vapid and empty and insincere and Machiavellian and then when I say I'm not participating you attack me I don't want to participate none of the people and it caused this big national conversation and I was talking about I'm going to run for mayor of London because like an idiot like the disciples actually I thought this is what I thought you've really what I should have thought is people have heard what you've said is true and they're responding to the truth in what you've said that's what I should have recognised but what I thought being fool and a fool was oh I'm really great and I should be powerful I made it about myself I thought I was fantastic and I got involved in it I got involved in my own thing and obviously it went terribly wrong as what happened well I did say that I was going to run for mayor of London and I did say that I participated in some brilliant movements like housing movements in London and we led this big march into Downing Street and outside Downing Street I had to talk about me in parliament this is 2015 and what happened was I think from that moment I was on the radar of certain forces that probably monitor online threats and vocal critics of establishment power and I would suggest that in the UK it's a little more insidious nefarious and the image I have is like dirty soil like oil in soil like toxic land like Britain's a deep rooted toxic land now I know a good deal of British UK imperial power migrated to your country in the same way that Nazi physicists migrated in order to ensure Babylon succeeds what happened was I got attacked a bunch like seriously attacked seriously attacked and I withstood it somehow but that's what it did it eviscerated me and I and I withdrew to the country and I got married and I bought my beautiful dog bear and I had my beautiful children and I lived out there calmly but something was nagging at me the whole time always you're going to be participating in this in some way in some new way see I'm doing a new thing find the new thing find the new thing but I always like an idiot I've been inculcated and indoctrinated by our culture our culture I think that individualism is our religion progressivism and I don't mean cultural progressivism as in multiple genders I mean we're going to the moon so everything's cool we've got this device now that's going to solve everything in gandhi in like 1940 said check this from gandhi gandhi said as the british were finally expelled he said there's no point in us beating the british in this revolution and then imitating and emulating the systems that we've been bequeathed by them to us india is a country of 70,000 villages each village should be fully autonomous trading only where necessary we must lose our fixation on gadgets and technology 1940s he's saying this of course india we know what happened it emulated and like it's essentially sort of you know it got conquered in an entirely different and more insidious way now we care about supporting companies whose values align with ours we do not want to shill for sleazy companies it is better to give business to like-minded americans than people who hate us that's our rule and that's one of the reasons we like charity mobile when you make the switch to charity mobile the company sends five percent of your monthly price plan to pro-life pro-family charities of your choice that's millions of dollars and counting sent to pro-family philanthropies okay you're probably thinking that sounds great but charity mobile must be 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these lone gunmen because you know there's a natural alliance there's a good fit it's like coca-cola and mcdonald's the two of them go there and like coca-cola mcdonald's and the olympics you know like a the and like coca-cola mcdonald's the olympics and satanic festivals where you mock christian imagery the whole thing should get together and if you find people that are prominent and outspoken and willing to risk their lives probably what you should do is shoot them dead and then blame like something that will work in the culture like I don't know trans people that would work knowing in your heart of hearts that christ would love and minister to all of us seeing us all as one family I'm not interested in race I'm not interested in color or skin or sexuality although I am a bit interested in sexuality all of you don't make a god out of it whether you're a heterosexual homosexual single celibate wherever you are anyway so I got in a lot of trouble it was the first time I got in trouble I learned from it well I just want to pause and say note to the editors of this please clip that that was like my favorite thing I've ever heard sorry excuse me sorry but what I wanted to say what I wanted to say was that um that the thing is because he is real and because it is true the very fact that as a result of presumably certain demographic information in your country there's a requirement even to imitate christianity as with that lady sort of charging her way to be first rather than last and if she'd read the bible that's not what she would do she'd want to be last rather than first then in in this condition they can't then deny you can't deny what's in there you can't deny the word once you've said america is a christian country we're running this on christian principles we need to return to how christianity informed the constitution and the founding fathers and as charlie kirk got rest his soul used to say this was meant to be practiced in alliance and alignment with christian principles if you that tell us will be used in his service because we now have a standard we now have a standard now of course we have forgiveness and we have anyone he will forgive all of us if he can forgive me he's taken my sin he's taken my shame he's taken yours and he'll take anyone's the most powerful people in the world the most vulnerable and weakest person in the world indeed he has no favorites he doesn't even care about those categories he doesn't recognize those categories so what i'm saying is is the reason that they annihilated christianity is because it gave us a verifiable permanent indeed eternal basis upon which to run kingdom it gave us instruction it told us what's going to happen now if as some kind of gambit people have been emulating and performing christianity that's in there too he says no problem no problem because they people will hear the name of jesus christ and they'll be saved they'll be saved by that name and by acceptance in their hearts and more practically once those environmental conditions have been set those of us that truly are following him and are trying our best to follow him and are trying to make ourselves smaller so that he can become greater we can say well we've been looking in here and it doesn't say that you're meant to have a war with Iran and it doesn't say that you're meant to validate people performing surgery in fact you are perfect already did you not know you are so beloved let's help you how can we help one another because you know our lord he would have been down with a trans down with a homeless down with a fentanyl down with a junkies he wouldn't have been going oh this is disgusting how can i love you how can i love you and i spend a surprising amount of time actually speaking to gay people about christ and like you know because obviously there's they're concerned and i'm trying to understand how we love and i what but what i can tell them absolutely is i i overly identified with my sexuality i'll tell you that i made my sexuality the most important thing about me and i thought it was okay to be hedonistic and decadent and it was an expression of my sort of neo-pagan self and can i say there's been some consequences so you you might want to consider you know there's something more beautiful about you are you saying for example that jesus christ and the beloved disciple john would have improved this great intimacy and total love between them by ejaculating is that what you're suggesting there is more to you than that there is a supreme intimacy with god he's actually wants to be inside you right now look at the carnality he's incarnate we eat his flesh and blood there's a there's as well as the agape love there's eros love in that he's we are his bride right we are his bride we had like it's there it's a very powerful energy the sexual energy and i definitely definitely misused it extensively by worshipping it and identifying with it so when i'm talking to people about problems around identity and sexuality even though i've never had the challenge of same-sex attraction my certainty is that we shouldn't be sex should not be our god but love must be first in fact the 12 steps puts it so well tucker in the great big book of alcoholics anonymous which i'm a student of it says um we want to stay out of this debate around sex some people think that sex is the be-all and end-all and some people want to live in absolute denial of sex this is a controversy we don't want to enter into some people would have a man with no flavor for his fare and the other camp would have them on a straight pepper diet someone pointed out to me that straight pepper diet would be eating a condiment as if it were the main course or the meal sex is a condiment upon which you which adds flavor to the meal of love that's what it is according to scripture in a marriage between a man and a woman i'm still you know for my own i'm trying to understand how to be completely loving to all people and not i don't it it says here clearly don't judge get the log out of your own eye so i guess it's not my my ministry is not about that but i'm just what what i don't want is to be a participant in a in a church that prioritizes judging and condemning others rather than dealing with our own evident internal fallen broken problems that is the truth i we had this conversation breakfast this morning with a wonderful person works for us and um i was telling her about being in church a couple weeks ago and somebody got up to read who you know i knew a lot about and and was judging so much based on you know behavior that we judge or whatever and this person gets up to read and i really felt very strongly that god just like spoke to me which doesn't happen every day and the message was you are no better than her and i turned it makes me emotional thinking about and i turned to my wife who i know was having similar thoughts or i thought she was and i whispered to i said we are no better than her and she goes i know and i think that is that's really at the center of it so much instruction love your neighbors then he removes any limited liability for the category of neighbor who is your neighbor whoever's in front of you that's your neighbor that's your neighbor whoever's in front of you agree but if you begin with i am no better than any other person i think it's a it's a clarifying it takes the blinders off like you can see things clearly because what then you feel like you don't have your own personal little mandate to go around telling yeah and also but it i mean there is not a sense in which i hate that phrase but there it is true that all people are connected to all other people in some way that's impossible to understand as a person or for me to understand in any case but that is absolutely real and you can feel it and it's almost like there are moments these rare transcendent moments in your life i mean sex is one of them where the barriers between people get thinner they may not dissolve entirely in this life but they're definitely the membrane is thinner and and you you feel a great satisfaction in that because that's kind of how it's intended to be that so much that divides us is fake it's put there on purpose in order to divide us but that it doesn't reflect reality like our humanity the fact we're all created by god is the most important fact about us for decades russell brand was one of the most famous actors and comedians and agnostics in the world today he is one of the most sincere christians we know a follower of christ his personal transformation is remarkable we saw it up close he has now recounted it in an amazing book called how to become a christian in seven days and recounts what happened to him and it makes the case to all of us for stepping away from our secular assumptions and returning to the only thing that matters which is god i've read it it's amazing and right now there's only one place to get it tucker carlson books.com this is the first release from our new publishing company we created tucker carlson books to bypass the censors and bring you things that are actually worth reading and sharing and we're starting this venture with what matters most and that's russell brand's message of the promise of forgiveness and joy through jesus we're proud to launch our new bookstore with russell brand's how to become a christian in seven days it is the message this country needs most find us today on tucker carlson books.com yes and if we are able to receive our identity in him then we will find in that kind of harmony not necessarily ease or absence of suffering but at least a certain truth and it's an extraordinary that in this world of counterfeits the identity politics a peculiar facsimile and emulation of individual sovereignty has come to the forefront exactly can you explain that a little can you flush it out a bit well you are you were fearfully and wonderfully made knitted together in your mother's womb he loves you who is it you say that i am i think that you are son of the living god that you are the messiah well this insight this is from uh i guess in a few of the gospels there but that's a moment between our lord and peter after after after peter acknowledges christ as god as a son of the living god and the messiah he gives him the name peter you are the rock upon which i can build my church when you see god for who god is then you will know who you are if you don't know god for who god is then you will be looking for an identity in the world i'm an englishman i'm an american i'm a proud homosexual i'm a young black woman i'm a little dutch boy wearing clogs you know like you start to identify with false things that you made with your own hands that he would be that no that is to the message to the to people that about gender identity is go further you are more individual than that he loves you more than that you are more unique than that you're not part of a group of people that happen to feel that you don't fit with the arbitrary gender identities of 2026 american cultural identity that wear this and wear that indeed in the word in heaven there is no man woman in heaven in the supreme reality there is no man woman he says that that's in there of course you're right you're right in a way it's a kind of a performance but if that performance leads you to like you know changing your body surgically then that's potentially there might be another route but we can look at the data and see if that's working for people post surgery and how many of them are happy with it and i guess we could make a scientific kind of a scientific judgment but the problem is is that all of us have been now recently exposed to the total illegitimacy of science in so much as we all know that only profitable experimentation is being undertaken who's doing and conducting the experiments to demonstrate absolutely that there is no causal link between the childhood vaccine pro program and the rise in autism who's going to pay for that vaccine manufacturers i wouldn't have thought so the government i don't and then that's the end of the list there's no one else that can afford to who by the way i mean one of the moments of the a deeper awakening to the immersive ubiquitous insidiousness of global imperialism came for me you know when you sort of realize things yourself that then become somewhat culturally evident and obvious and explored and it's happened to me yes yeah yeah so when with the vaccines like how are they clinically trialing that for the impact on pregnant women because which pregnant women are going to allow them to in this time frame have experimented and how do we know the long-term effects because there hasn't been a long period of time in which to witness the long-term effects and all those questions that one might sort of ponder chewing a pencil on your own it turns out were unanswerable because we were being dreadfully deceived dreadfully deceived and it seems like the ultimate aim of it may have been population reduction of course and then of course i suppose the additional benefits of how much authoritarianism can we leverage how successfully because remember the bit where it's like well you won't be able to do do what you did in china in america italy in the united kingdom turns out that you largely can but there was this kind of a stumbling block because people online with significant audiences were talking about it okay so that's a problem we can't have significant audiences online where people are getting non-mainstream information what do we do to annihilate that well can we create some kind of ideological diaspora where they're all arguing with one another sometimes about important things sometimes about dumb stuff and as dave smith i know he's a collaborator and friend of yours when he said that 2008 and the occupy movement was a kind of unique solidarity when it comes to the typical political taxonomies in your country and mine people transcended that and recognized hold a minute it's financial institutions that are to blame for this why don't we start targeting them that was the advent of identity policy let's have a race war yeah race war quick super quick so you were on involved in all that stuff i mean you were um assessing british politics in 2008 that that was a long time ago all of a sudden and now you're talking about jesus so how did that happen well you wrote a book about it how to become a christian in seven days what did you become a christian in seven days no i became a christian both instantaneously but over the entirety of my life when it happened it happened in an instant it happened when i was i reckon even though i wouldn't have termed it this way at the time probably um contemplating suicide i was probably considering do is this would this is there a way out of this and the reason was of course was because of the allegations in the uk of criminal sexual conduct specifically rape and sexual assault at the same time as my son had been diagnosed with a heart condition which we've discussed previously and those two things happening simultaneously did something extraordinary to me in so much as it was exposed to me that i've i mean i heard it as a voice like you just described sometimes you hear these voices you've spent your whole life worshipping fame and sex well now look fame and sex have come together is this what you wanted and all the time that i was famous by the way i think there would have been people that are the only things they would have known about me is oh isn't that that guy that was married to katie perry and isn't that that guy that likes always talking about sex and stuff and being all like a sexy rock star in movies in your country they might say that and um so those two things sort of compounded to show me the nature of my worship you have been worshipping false gods you have been idolizing yourself and shall fame can be glorious for the kingdom he's a tool he can use sex magnificent source of creation connection of course but i was misusing those things now when that hit me even though i kind of understood it a little bit before i didn't understand it as viscerally as i did in the the new context of your son i'll tell you this man there was a moment where i was walking my dear beloved dog bear and check out this thought this is i think the tempter i think this is the accuser this thought occurred would you what if your son laura's still pregnant my wife is still pregnant what if your son died and this could all go away would you accept that and i sort of went oh god no like that like i felt i sort of fell to my knees and i cried i cried for thinking it i cried for thinking it like how could you even think that how could you even think that and it sort of purged me a bit that cry and that cleanse in this period of contemplation a friend of mine from i uh from a 12-step support group sent me a video of rick warren and rick warren i never heard of rick warren i know that purpose-driven life sold 30 million i don't know things like that i'm not christian i don't care right he sent me a video and then i see and it's the most sort of slick televangelical tv show of like hey we're gonna be speaking with rick warren and i see rick warren he's kind of beardy and plump i'm like what's all this and then when he talks about like he's and that the everyone's too toothy too tax breaky like you're not gonna get me with that you're not getting me with like proper american evangelism i'm clever i'm not gonna i'm british clever i'm british working class clever that might be the cleverest anyone can be you're not getting me with that that when he but he talks about his son killing himself and like and the way he spoke about his son killing himself because for me in my mind this is tony robbins like someone who i deeply admire as a matter of fact like i'm thinking rick warren he must be like a personal coach kind of person who brings out your excellence or whatever you know i didn't even have a reference for what christianity is thinking about it now like but like so rick warren spoke about his son's suicide without shame with pain and sorrow but without any kind of indulgence of that and i thought what is that what is that what is that that you can because if your child kills himself you ain't better not be writing no books about personal development because the worst thing that can happen has happened so shut up but i when i saw it modeled delivered when i encountered it i felt like oh he's what is it and that sort of somehow glitched something in me and i was out there and i was in the fields by my house you visited my house i'm by the river thames by the river by the still waters and i'm in green pastures and it was only when my dog died that i realized that my dog is a german shepherd that he was a shepherd and that the shepherd made me sit down in green pastures and he made me be still by the waters and i understood that i was being spoken to and that through my son i was being spoken to taker in those moments where you if you hand over your boy like 12 weeks old to surgeons and you don't know if you're getting back again like and then when you see him with the wires and the tubes and all that's always so visceral and in those rooms me and laura we felt okay we felt fine we felt peaceful we felt protected and i was going into those hospitals in like first time i wore a mask during that pandemic let me tell you was to be out in the streets in london because every single newspaper and every single tv station was dedicated right up until october 7th peculiarly to saying russell brands of rapist we should have known could we have done something like and like in plain sight suggesting that somehow i'd conducted my entire career and in anticipation of a time where in the future i would be accused of sex crime brilliantly he was flirting with every single woman he ever met on tv on camera and chatting up if like if there's if there was a talk show and there was a female here i'd like to know are you single and if she said yes i'd like start flirting with her and try and detect that she attracted to me and if she was i would pursue that till it's natural literally natural conclusion if i on the other hand detected revulsion resistance then like i'm like okay luckily i'm famous so like and they tried to somehow reframe that as some as like i don't know how you would even do that but the problem is is i created a lot of data out there during those years i was sleeping with thousands of women and i was sleeping with women that will have sex with you immediately in a bathroom or backstage or in a corridor in a car so i create quite a lot of i hurt people i exploit people that's greedy that's selfish it's inconsiderate it's mean it's certainly sinful immoral it's all of those things there's no question about any of that so when show me the man i'll show you the crime if people's phones are getting scraped as edward snowden revealed from more or less the late 90s just in case one day you do something we don't like we're ready to go it's either going to be the pink or the green the money or the honey we're going to get you financially or we're going to get you sexually unless you're a person that's lived in christ if you've lived in christ your whole life they're going to have to kill you for doing nothing they're going to have to kill you for doing nothing probably happened to charlie kirk probably there was nothing shady to get him with was there that may be what it was so you know luckily i was a philanderer and a hedonist so well we'll just do rape and sexual assault with that guy that's going to take minutes so they're able to it's unbelievable when you see the material that was generated initially i mean their documentary and by this company called hard cash it was a actors played the women that were making allegations that had not gone to the police or anything like that and they used bits of my stand-up where i was saying stuff like um yeah like really in account i'm a british comedian so i've been super camp and crass but using campness to take the edge off very vulgar anatomical and sexual and erotic jokes which i was very explicit about and they would pose that next to someone being shot in silhouette even though it was an actor shot in silhouette even though it's an actor to protect the identity of an actor like they should like you know if you put them then with music you know people don't realize a documentary is a construction what archive music did you choose from the archive library what music for that scene why why did you cut away there where's the rest of the interview how many times did you talk to that person what did you tell that person when you were talking to them so it was an extraordinary time and i have absolutely i will say this no animosity to anyone involved because i can see why you would do it i can see if you look back at something 20 years ago 25 years ago where you've had sex in a bathroom with a stranger why would you not like if you see a documentary that guy he's a villain he was dressed in black he loomed his eyes changed suddenly you it's extraordinary it's extraordinary but the reason that there were no allegations i'm assuming contemporaneously or during me too or you know all the way up to where there was a television program called russell brand has secretly been committing all these sexual offenses i'm assuming and then there was a phone number at the end have you ever met russell brand then i'm assuming that was a component in this so either we believe that the times owned by rupert murdoch are a great you know they're a force for good in the world and uh you know hard cash whose name has certain indications are that they're there to help us and that the mainstream media at large are here to help us or there might be some other agenda at play that if people are prominently talking about covid and moderna and pfizer and rishi sunak invested in moderna when it only had five employees and then when he was chancellor and prime minister they did deals with moderna to the tune of millions and all of the things that we understand took place in the covid period or the ukrainian war and that the cia cia carve out i should say made content saying russell brand's an asset for russia and put it into your ukrainian language that's an indication of the presence of the state or if the 77th brigade run by mark lancaster who's married to caroline dynage who's the debt is the department head of the social media department and caroline dynage on like day one of uh of russell brand's accused of sex crimes is like he should be demonetized on x and youtube when did she learn what the word demonetize means when did she learn that does she know about cpms does she and and and programmatic ads or did she have a conversation with someone i wonder who i wonder if it was her husband mark lancaster guess what their job is in in when britain are occupying or working in afghanistan or syria or wherever to protect us like the 77th brigade what they do is ensure that there is no significant uprising by managing the social media by de-amplifying and controlling social media in eg afghanistan or syria to make sure that only the correct rebel factions are able to organize their information shadow banning we'd call it here well 77th brigade aren't allowed to operate in the uk because you're not allowed to use military psyops on a domestic population except in covid special suspension was made allowing 77th brigade to operate inside the uk and to allow them and it said this in the times newspaper the same newspaper in fact that published much of the nefarious and untrue reporting about me that 77th brigade are going to take down vaccine misinformation social media commentators now in the uk that's who i was and what i was that was what i was doing i was providing an alternative narrative the youtube channel was exploding it was extraordinary and i was beginning to think i have to be involved in politics it's not enough it's not enough to just talk about this indeed look at what's happened with cryptocurrency technology means that the same centralized financial institutions cannot control global finances in the way they once did don't look too much into where that power is primarily housed but it seems that you can generate false revenue for inflationary measures you can control entire economies and indeed base an economy on the one thing that's explicitly forbidden in here debt and usury thankfully all our debts are paid by the one who truly loves us so technology changed currency and finance forever technology is changing media forever it's inevitable that it will change politics when people accept that we now have the technology for direct participatory democracy where every single issue could be polled and voted on by the population that you could have minimum centralization and minimum intervention as the the principles that the states each state could be independent wherever possible each town could be independent wherever possible each individual could be independent wherever possible in here of course we have some significant guidelines for transgressive behaviors that would require legal intervention and pretty much all of us know what those are we've all like indeed c.s lewis's primary argument along with aquinas is morality doesn't have to be engineered and it's not some sort of post-truth post-structuralist there is no truth arbitrary thing we all know good and bad because we feel it viscerally and we feel it in our cardiovascular system we have inbuilt sensors if you don't turn them off with vaccines and bad food and bad signals continually in a manageable way tucker the city of london is having an election for mayor in 2028 the reason this is fascinating is because the office of mayor is manageable the london mayor sadiq khan right now is only in control of the metropolitan police force london transport and certain issues regarding planning and housing all of these areas in a participatory direct democracy could be opened up to people that live in london that love london all of a sudden you don't have politics that thrives and runs on ideology and debate you have a pragmatic democracy do you want you les cameras that charge you if you have a certain type of vehicle do you want a congestion charge vote for it if you vote yes we'll do it if you vote no we won't do you want this type of policing where people are arrested for facebook posts or do you want to focus on knife crime which boroughs which areas what time of day do you want us to investigate historic crimes or do you want us to focus on contemporary rape gangs the beauty of it is you would say we have an opinion and we have a voice and we have advocacy you could even if you wanted for free because there's no way i would pay people to do this have a council of elders from the lgbtq plus community from the muslim community from the white working class community from the left and from the the right from all potential groups and say why don't you advocate and advise because i don't want to be in charge of london i want to participate in an end to the kind of politics that we know is birthing midwifing the apocalypse and armageddon through duplicity through conflict through endless self-obsession through pornography through addiction using addiction even where it doesn't typically play out every time we look at a screen the food that we eat the things we believe about ourselves i would like to run for mayor of london in 2028 so that the people of london would run it so that politicians are not involved in politics so we have true open source transparent democracy i bet you like me do polymarket adverts they seem to be advertising absolutely everywhere that technology for polling and electing could be used to determine where you want your local budget spent who you want running a particular area of public life if there is a requirement for any representation and most importantly you will be in control of your own lives and we don't need to quarrel and squabble about islam and islamic invasion if the people of epping don't want to have migrants in their community then let them vote on it now that's not an area that the london mayor controls but certainly if the polling was available it would be difficult to impose that on the people of epping perhaps if people in other communities are very pro-refugees they would get a budget for and the ability to house refugees there's no point in us living in this tower of babble madness of incessant unending conflict online and sometimes in person when we have the opportunity for real community real change at this point tucker we know that the republicans aren't the answer the democrats aren't the answer the conservatives aren't the answer the labor party the greens reform republic whoever what you want is for people to be absolutely empowered in their own lives as our lord suggests each of us has direct access to divine truth and you can participate as much as you want to so that i want to tell you as well that my intention amidst all this madness with a forthcoming trial and a book out that i'm very pleased with i'm going to run for mayor of london in 2028 you're going back to the uk well yes possibly to serve a joust instance i wasn't going to ask you about this because i'm upset about it and i just want to say for the record as clearly as i can that i buy your explanation completely and i think you were i think this is a lie and that you're you're facing like a real jail term because you spoke against the people in power i don't think there's any other way to uh to interpret it so that's my position just to be clear but what exactly are you looking at like what what happens next i'll be i'll be on trial in october of this year yes and i i don't want to be willfully ignorant of course but i tend not to ask what will happen if i'm not acquitted because i've got a wife and three young children also by the way i do believe if someone committed a rape 20 25 years ago and that's proven to be true that person should go to jail like rape is abhorrent i watched the other days like something like pretty woman with my wife and like when there's a an attempted rape by the brilliant jason alexander it's an appalling abhorrent jarring moment the worst thing when i watched it from the position i'm in now it's like that's what what the fuck how dare you say that i would do that how dare you say that i would do that exactly i have a kind of a magnetic allure i'm not saying i wasn't at a pretty appalling low life of an individual but what i was not doing was imposing forcing coercing attracting charming seducing anyway of course that's the pleasure in it it's like fishing that's why dynamite fishing is no fun fly fishing is lots of fun do people use dynamite in fishing of course they do right yeah that should be banned as well i mean but i'm just saying like if i'm out of london that goes on day one but most men yeah i mean i know that there are rapists out there and i think they should be severely punished most normal people think that yes but most men i've never met any man uh who you know got drunk and told me his secret desire is to like force sex in anyone that's the opposite of what i think most men want yes correct because the currency is love well that's exactly right and it's also like i lured this person with my charms isn't that how men feel i think they do i think primarily and i pray ultimately most men yes so why okay so this whole thing happens you get charged i was actually in um the british isles the day this happened and i called you i'll never forget it and i gave the bad advice i give to everyone who's charged in a political case like this which is run as fast as you can to a country with no extradition treaty and like don't which it was is an option it is an option of course run away like this this whole system is rigged against people who question its most basic premises as you have so like why are you submitting you're choosing to participate in this to take the risk to submit why firstly because i believe all things are from god and i recognize that this is what it took for me to accept that my life is not my own i belong to a higher calling a higher purpose i recognize that i also recognize how that what i demonstrated and how i lived for a long time was wrong i also believe in trial by jury as a matter of fact even though the united kingdom are trying to obliterate that and that's not a good sign they're trying to remove that except for murder and rape cases but they are try as well as advancing surveillance technology facial recognition digital id all of the things you're aware of in the dystopian uk they're trying to get rid of jury trial and i believe it is possible to have a fair trial and i believe it is necessary to confront and stand up and stand firm in your conviction in this case in my conviction about the truth of what i've done and what i haven't done because as a christian we're all forgiven for all of the things we've done wrong but you don't need to be forgiven for things you haven't done and there is of course in a way no choice you say that i could you know go to a place where there's no extradition treaty and in the moments of my worst fear you know those are the kind of things i think about but in reality tucker it says in here the the book of james opens with we consider it pure joy when we face trials of any kind and there's no exemption in the christian life it's not like well except unless you actually do have a trial in which case get yourself to bora bora quick smile you know it is this is what i'm called to do this is what i am called to do this is what we are being called to do i'm not trying to drag you into my terrible trial with me i'm saying that your trial i think is of a comparable nature because in a sense it's sort of inadvertent that we find ourselves in this position that you had an enormous audience on fox and then you become an independent journalist and become even more successful and you go from advocating for trump for reasons that are perfectly understandable to condemning trump for equally evident and obvious reasons more or less even if we take personalities out of it the iran war but where does that go for you now what are you going to be called to do you will note that most of the people that get called in here are like no thanks i'd rather not i'd rather not oh i've always been a sort of a bit of a glory hunter kind of you know well that's actually the wrong way to put it i felt so worthless and inferior as a child so this sort of unapproved of unwanted and unloved that's not to do with my parents they really did their level best and then as a drug addict anyone who's like the kind of drug addict i was you're moving among poor people prostitutes broken people and all of that time i felt kind of an emptiness and a worthlessness and when my identity was fulfilled it seemed at least to me in a kind of stardom and acceptance and being lauded and applauded and celebrate and loved and given the kind of attention that i thought would work and it was really quickly meaningless and empty after this beautiful golden moment of feeling like oh wow lord you love me i feel that there is nothing for us to do but to lovingly participate in whatever he puts in front of us and the examples are alive in here that all of them are persecuted and often just killed for what they believe in normally because at some point they encounter conflict with real power either the kind of cultural pharisaic power or uh of the early christians or the monarchical oligarchical terrifying despotism of the kings of the of the earlier empires and for the first christians their role was to well indeed isn't that the primary um character of their conversion all these people that were willing to look into the eyes of people people including the you know the 12 year old girl at the fire and peter said i don't know him i've never met that guy where minutes ago he was willing to sort of get in a fight for him like that these people these men these ordinary men and women these ordinary christians when they're confronted with a moment where they might have to die for what they believe in take it now i recognize i'm not standing trial for being a christian i'm standing trial uh according to the uh lexicon of the british judiciary for the crimes that i've already discussed but in what this is my opportunity to do is to show that i believe in truth i believe you can have a justice system because there is a god if you don't believe in god you can't have absolute justice or absolute truth they are by definition constructs of the human mind arrived at using a mind that by its own belief is itself an arbitrary system born of chaos you can't have morality and when you live in that culture and most people do a lot of people seem to anyway because i'm talking about like a lot of christians aren't living like oh my god this is actually real and that's of course forgivable the first christians had that problem they found it hard to live as christians as live as disciples of christ yoked to him following him eyes on him at all times this is for me a difficult thing i wish it would go away i wish it would go away but what i pray for is the strength to be who i am in him as i walk through it and to go where he wants me to go i don't want power no more i don't want the power of being a celebrity or the mayor of london or a lothario i don't want that all i want is to know him intimately and i forget that sometimes because i'm weak and i'm easily distracted and i'm fallen but in him i'm none of those things he made me and you and everybody for to know him to know him and love him and it doesn't all have to be on a big grand global stage in great big trials against a fallen nation britain's fallen apart that's obvious it's evident it's on a different trajectory from your country it's still owned by dark imperial power and the thing about the idea of participate redirect democracy tucker is i don't care if i don't want to sit in an office somewhere making decisions i want to pray all of the time i want to be with god and i want to be with my children and the people i love and to tell people to do what it says in the great commission tell people in a language that they'll understand god is real christ is real stop worship in the world you're going to die you're going to die and it's all meaningless all of us evidently all of us have experienced grief and death i can't i can't even get through the death of my dog without jesus in fact but with jesus the death of my dog shows me oh my god i may find it hard to think of a galilean man 2026 years ago laying down their life for me but i know that dog would have done it i know that dog would have done it and that opened enough in me to for me to receive him more deeply when my beloved dog died i don't want to be in any other communion i don't be in any other conversation i don't want any of the world's power anymore i know how broken i am and how corruptible i am and i know i can't take my eyes off him for a second but thankfully i see him everywhere now so you began this process well you began the process at the beginning of your life but you began the conscious change from pagan to christian or whatever you were before to christian after your son was diagnosed with a very serious ailment and you found out you're going to be indicted for rape that's that's what it takes i'm not easily converted hey there was this guy he helped people yeah so what that's probably not true he's the son of god i don't care people are doing miracles you're in trouble okay all right okay okay you've got me what i need to do explain it i so i watched it carefully and you and i talked about it as it was happening and i just thought it was one of the most wonderful things and by the way i just have to just pause for a two-minute story which i think i've told before but it's my favorite story ever that we went to easter a few years ago and we had dinner the night before uh and you were talking about about how you're going to get baptized and we went to this easter service it was an outside easter service on the beach and these two kids come up to me they were college students from purdue in indiana and they said is that russell brand this is the next morning after we had talked about baptism and i said yeah that's russell brand i yeah russell brand my friend russell brand he said that's incredible we have been praying in our church that russell brand would get baptized and we just find ourselves here this morning at this church service was nowhere near where they live and i said i i just was i felt emotional hearing this i said we were just talking about his baptism last night and then they walked up and introduced themselves to you and i just thought wow i mean i guess i already knew this but there aren't coincidences like we are in the middle of a of a drama that we didn't write um so then you get baptized and then you start talking about jesus and immediately people say well the guy's an actor and a comedian he puts on personas for a living and they don't believe you and they make fun of you what was that like that experience i didn't really mind that actually this is obviously a different reality at that point yeah you i and also remember i've got this good foundation of 12 steps the 12 steps too requires that you surrender your identity as an alcoholic and as a drug addict amen you come to believe there's a power greater than yourself you hand over your will and your life to the care of god as you understand god but the problem i think with paganism is you will always one will always revert to self amidst if everything is if everything is god then anything is god and i know what i tend towards me i'm god i should be in charge that's what i incline towards so when i was in here i don't like people saying that you know if it was up to me people would only say nice things about me all of the time but like i reckon that would be bad for us if that happened don't you think yes i don't think that would work because i tried to surround myself in a little sycophantic bubble and in various points in my life and it hasn't worked out at all well for me so i don't mind about that i don't care about that at all actually because really because it infuriated me watching it really because i actually because i knew it wasn't true and it really bothered me thank you that's really kind of you but it had no effect on you that's funny well actually i was around really good christians that was like sort of like going well done well that's been i was so encouraged like i would send people like you know like when i got baptized because those kids they were trying to they were but like i remember those kids from hanging out with you that time around east they were like hey i baptized her can we baptize you we baptize each other it's like they're going to gang baptize me there and then and like like and i i knew that bear grills had been saying to me hey he actually termed it this way shall we get baptized is what he said like and i thought me because i'm had been so solipsistic up to that point i didn't know that bear grills is a pretty passionate christian and had been public about it so i thought oh bear grills on this trip is he i'll get baptized with him well when he arrived it's quite plain that only i was getting baptized then there was the obvious and evident demonic coughing like i could not stop coughing the pastor arrived by boat my friend joe who's a catholic was one side of me that hefty fallen man and like bear on the other side it's like you know it takes me sort of career criminals and the sas to baptize me we got in that water and i couldn't stop coughing you know when you get an embarrassing cough oh yeah one of them happened they were looking at each other we got in that river thames i went under i came out and i felt different i felt different now a lot of companies in the uk that are in charge of water franchises have not behaved but responsibly with that river so it could be diphtheria it could be all sorts of cholera yeah it could have been many of those things but i came out and i felt different and i've not really i felt an increasing look anyone that's christian or has come to christ as an adult knows what it's like there is a subtle vacillation there is at least temptation a calling to go back what if i did this there is i can feel the old identity wasn't it spurgeon who says you know you are drowned in christ but sure you're sure enough the old guy can swim the old man can really swim i feel the old man i feel the adam man in me the old earth man for the fallen man calling back but i feel closer and closer to him all the time i feel like i'm able to have this conversation with you in christ enough so that it doesn't seem to me to be a problem if some people go i think you've only been but i don't know if you know how the british legal system works but there is no contingency for christians britain has just made like abortion legal till your 25th birthday like we can abort you now if we have to we can euthanize you if you say i've got a headache euthanize him euthanize him they're changing the law to put the power of god into the hands of man right now so saying i'm a christian it's not like you know in britain the way things are going right now where they i pray for revival i pray for revival yes i do too no one seems to be questioning the fact you can't have a justice system without a god without god there is no justice because the justice means absolute right right absolute truth that's what it means it means it's possible to aspire to that it's there that there is a path that there is a way no one's thinking about these things as they churn through mad post enlightenment despair and act and atrophy and entropy as the whole thing seems to dissipate and degenerate and as we nominate ai to be our moral center and create new false consciousness new false gods and alarming rate no one's considering that we've got no grounding in truth and until we have systems that represent our true role yet we are stewards of the earth that's why we love the earth we are its stewards we must love one another because that's what we're here to do under god when we get rid of that and put ourselves at the top then we're just quarreling about ideologies hey how much longer in american politics do you want to go between right we won let's spend the next four years desecrating the beliefs of this group right we won let's desecrate the beliefs of this group that we won before we recognize well this isn't real what are we doing the real agenda is carrying on in plain sight and it seems to be a geopolitical agenda that has some weird connection both to energy which is another word for power and indeed occultism which means hidden ritual hidden power something is going on something that i don't think any of us really understand and you more than anyone it seems to me at least right now appear to have been nominated to describe it to people you're doing good well i don't understand it at all no and luckily i do understand almost everything on like a dog level it has to be very obvious to for me to pick it up and i but i do believe that symbols are resonant that's why people use them and if all around you you seen see obvious signs that people have a religious agenda i have been around powerful people for so long that one thing i've learned is they're the most religious people of all and they all pretend to be agnostic or i don't believe in anything i believe in science no no no no they are observant religious people they're just not worshiping the same god but they think their power is supernatural there's no doubt about it i know them and they believe they are special because they're getting supernatural power and i think it's demonic power i think it's really obvious look at the fruits but they know it they know it they're observant religious people you mean through practice yes through ritual correct correct yes yes absolutely i mean and it's always the same it's the temptation of christ bow down before me and all this will be yours but i mean there's no question in my mind that um you know the the killing the ritual killing of other people whether through war abortion or euthanasia the death penalty um it is it's a religious ritual of course and through killing the shedding of blood of others especially of innocence they derive power what's what's child molestation there's no sexual attraction to children in nature because there's no reproductive possibility so normal people are not of course there's something sexual about molesting a child the point of it is to defile right i mean that's that's why it's so common yes it's not because they have like weird sexual or something sexual about it it's like when i destroy purity and beauty i gain supernatural power i think that can be eroticized by sure but the eroticization is in itself a kind of charge i believe this is where again we would look to the outliers in the conspiracy community of i know that you know we talked at the beginning of how we've moved from mainstream media purview where you know just to say that i'm from the new york times or the bbc is insufficient that doesn't that is not a badge of honor and authority anymore those days are gone except for the sort of there's kind of nostalgia around it i suppose but then like um you know people that have been that are eccentric and are kooky and about perhaps because our culture hasn't afforded the roles that are emerging from this new kind of jungian psyche that we create we create a new consciousness through ai through the internet through mass comms and so you will have the dark woman the shadow woman that tells truth and mad and frantic red-faced preachers screaming or broken wounded men in you will have converts and apostates too that's you and probably me too you will have the and like see david ike what i always feel about him is why can't the culture accommodate him and what on earth was it that happened even in the brief time that i was in media where we could i used to have a radio show on the bbc bbc too very popular normal i got thrown off it of course because i did something ridiculous as usual um but like um like david ike they spent he used to just come on i go david i said tell us what the queen's a lizard and yes there are reptilian entities now what david ike would say about the rituals that involve child abuse are that it generates an energy that i believe they call loose that sort of is being utilized and all that adrenochrome stuff it's starting to seem eerily we're not moving away from that direction is what what i'm saying is it's like that there's one vocabulary that describes it that seems conspiratorial somewhat sort of baroque in its imagery and it's and then but the other one is in here i mean it's like child sacrifice is clearly what they play at those high altars for moloch and baal and beelzebul like that they're demanding innocence and there is some sort of weird or right component and what was jezebel doing when elijah had to take all that time out drove himself none of this is i mean it's all bad but it's certainly not anomalous or strange it's like the story of every civilization from the beginning of recorded history is always operated on the basis of what we're describing i saw you say what you think all of a sudden like throughout for time immemorial the elites and most powerful people have had access to like sexual pleasure you think that's all of a sudden stop now you think they're not doing it now because of rationalism because of what it's so silly of course they're doing that and i suppose isn't it strange because now we can't like we can't talk around power anymore that's what the decline of trump does i think is it means you can't have this convenient albeit temporary symbol of resurgent american pride and nationalism through common sense and free market and america first when there's a war with iran that appears to be beneficial to extra american interest you can't have that anymore now it's like oh right so you too huh but and that's but what do you mean we can't talk around power anymore that's when we talk about power now i you know of course even though i don't particularly read it i can i can one can sense the hysterical glee of the democratic left we told you tucker carlson that trump's a madman we told you that he was a narcissist we we could have had kamala harris in that white house right now she would have never have gone to war with iran kamala harris would have stopped for you saw the way that woman described problems and definitely wasn't drinking in the daytime she would have resolved all of this get her now is it too late would she do it she might run again quick it's not too late what about gavin newsome he's got nice here aoc she was a bartender you know come on see reason see reason but like also republican party who are we going to get excited about i mean look i look you know i what i used to criticize when i was affiliated with the left by virtue of the class of my birth and the champagne socialism version of that as a sort of a star type guy i used to the argument i used to really find quite repugnant was well of course we know the left's not perfect we know that tony blair is compromised we know that keir starmer at the cps was dreadfully authoritarian as i heard you once say you won't make me you won't convince me even at gunpoint that that guy's making decisions himself i love that um like we just let them because the alternative is so much worse the alternative is so much worse and using that polarity modality they've bounced us around for about 100 years at least not longer if not longer and now so when i say real power surely we should be considering now okay so ethno-nationalist america first populism conservatism with kind of allusions to christianity with without uh heeding chesterton's warning christianity has not been tried and found wanting it has been found difficult and not been tried and like that for us to recognize it's hard to be a christian because it starts with you like i'm always also said i'm the problem i'm the problem that's the truest thing and like you said yeah you said that i see that resonates that's the price of admission well i just think that's the beginning of liberation is real it's like it's the beginning of a healing a fractured relationship is always the same you acknowledge that it's your fault and it stays fractured this is true of a relationship between another person and a relationship between you and god it only begins to be healed when you admit what you did wrong that's just true that's just a fact it doesn't work otherwise does it no it doesn't and i'm trying to do that in the areas where i have been wrong while in the difficult situation of being accused of things i haven't done and that's been a real little tightrope walk and certainly more than i can what's your so you're gonna get a chance to see this i want to come by the way will you oh obviously i mean i don't know if they'll let you in the dark because i'd like you in there i mean they got excited when i had a bible in there like they someone came and took the bible off me she was a lovely lady actually but i was holding the bible i was in there and also when the news reporter my father-in-law my beloved father-in-law god love that catholic devout lovely man bernard gallagher like he's a like a serious but like he's a golfer like he's a writer cup captain you know like he's a beautiful guy and he like when i saw him last month okay what are you doing russell it says that um it said in the paper that you stood up and started trying to preach in the courtroom i was like no i did not do that i didn't like grab the bible's like now hear this there is only one true justice and it's not the corrupt justice of the british i didn't do that i just was quietly holding it and then i saw someone else clutching his bible there's nothing that i they won't metastasize clinging to i think it's the term we cling into his bible which i think we saw him sexually assault earlier in the in 1992 like i mean like you know like they won't miss an opportunity to turn everything negative so when i say we can't be confused about power how you with your constituency you with your voice how can you ever again say all right i advocate for this party or this group it's got to be principles it's got to be principles it's got to be these are the principles and the one that i keep coming to is democracy could work but it can't work at the scale of nations you're gonna have to look at what how what the limits of democratic reach are and we've got to let go of some pretty baked in ideas the individuality individual sovereignty beautiful but individual expressionism the ridiculousness of you've just got to be who you truly are what do you mean well people are truly violent they're truly corrupt they're truly broken they be who you are in god be who you are in god not who you are according to your mad culture that will turn you into all sorts of crazy things on any given sunday afternoon individualism doesn't work an idea materialism doesn't work as an idea as a highest principle of course i recognize we're in a reality that you know has edges uh and progressivism the idea that we're advancing people in the old days they were idiots we've understood this now you they needed the bible back then because they were dumb we've advanced beyond that that idea has to go as well we have to move to a position of humility and righteousness righteousness means i know your real god and i know me because i am me and i know you've been with me all the time so you know how broken i am you know what i've done you know what i've not done so that's the basis now for the rest of my life seek thee first the kingdom of god and all this and his righteousness will be granted to you if i'm in the right position with god now i can do what god wants me to do not what i want me to do or what the culture wants me to do so real power is god's power but as you already alluded to in both luke's telling and john's telling of the temptation when the devil tempts christ he says i'll give you power over all of this it's mine and i can give it to whoever i want and jesus doesn't go well steady on he goes yeah i recognize that but actually that's not what i'm here for i'm paraphrasing but like but like you know that christ recognizes and as it says in john's first epistle we know that the evil one is in charge of this world and as some paul reminds us in ephesians we're fighting against dark spiritual power so real power i saw it on one of your shows actually and it's a good video title by the way whoever came up with that everything is downstream of spiritual warfare everything is downstream so if we operate on that basis of how is this what is this doing spiritually what value is this promoting what role is this casting me in what lie am i believing in thinking that if congress goes this way or the executive branch goes that way or the senate does that it's not enough anymore we've got to look rigorously at what's happening and i think the one principle is maximum power to individuals to communities to families but you can't like go around making people be christian at gunpoint so that works for me it took the breaking apart of my entire reality in order to recognize that that he's real the simple fact he's real he's here now he rose he didn't die he ascended he granted us the holy spirit is within you it's not just a poem it's a deep essential reality it's more real than you're called russell and you can speak this language that you didn't invent using lungs that you didn't give yourself walking on a land that you didn't build in an infinite space that seems to be expanding with a molecular world that's full of weird paradox and miracle you didn't do any of that but you can through his grace participate in it through truth first truth like you said confession confess all this is all of my brokenness this is who i am do what you want with me and in a way that is liberating because there is part of me tucker that doesn't want to be convicted of rape and go to jail oh there's a part of you hey that's a bit of me now i'm trying to get rid of that little guy but but there's a part of me that also thinks well hang on if this can happen anything can happen if you can conjure it up and also by the way i'm you know like we'll say watching your content i'm thinking oh man am i just just some guy banging on about his divorce like oh this thing happened to me it's not fair i can show you logically i know that guy you better not be coming to dinner all right so like yeah so um yeah are you afraid sometimes yeah sometimes and in that fear that fear fear like uh fear of god is the beginning of wisdom but 365 times do not be afraid and so what is the fear of god is the beginning of god has absolute power it's the beginning of wisdom it's not the end of wisdom it's the beginning so if i sort of recognize that god is the person that must be my focus i will be taken on a journey and if obviously god wants me to go through this because this is happening so but it's also sort of kind of not odd in a bunch of ways other than the odd anomaly of i didn't do the things i'm accused of it really makes sense in a lot of ways i worship the world i i was exploitative and greedy and there's loads of ways that it makes sense i kept missing opportunities to live a good life like god would show me hey look you've got this amazing wife and these beautiful children to be grateful now and i still was like no i should have more shouldn't i be powerful you know i keep falling into i need i obviously i'm a person that needs clear instruction and i've received it so are you going to start your campaign while you're in london on trial i'm starting now right now and it's in 2028 you have to you know like the business end of running for mayor of london's pretty practical you pay 10 grand you get some signatures in every single borough of london but this is the thing that i think is important it doesn't matter if it's me it matters about the ideas if you have a green mayor of london or a reformed mayor of london or a conservative or even if sadiq khan continues doing it you know what you're going to get if you vote for participatory open source direct democracy where every single decision where possible and i don't see why all of it wouldn't be possible and open for referenda switzerland does it four times a year massive referendum that's a whole country you have the opportunity to change london meaningfully now now that is populism and populism is a kind of dirty word people sort of seem to think that the population are dirty that there's something wrong with people mob rule but i'd say what we have now is closer to mob rule mafia mob mob mentality we know what mob means and also by the way i rather object to the fundamental principle of contemporary politics by leadership and governance by appointed leaders that you don't understand you're stupid you don't know what we know we need people have been through these institutions to run government i don't like that i object to it on the most sort of personal sociological and relational grounds i some of those beautiful people i meet haven't had formal education some of those intelligent people over me haven't had a formula formal education and the idea that power belongs to an elite is for me it's disgusting and i think for a minute if i can be entirely honest i was so sort of um blindsided and overwhelmed by the events that you know we've talked about a lot over of course this conversation that i actually forgot you're supposed to be doing something for other people you're not meant to be here just for you you're supposed to be doing something for other people and the idea that someone as um self-involved as i have been as narcissistic solipsistic hedonistic and indulgent as epicurean as i've been in my life would now say i listen it doesn't even matter if it's me i don't it doesn't matter if i'm the mayor of london the system this idea is what matters open source direct democracy where you vote for if you want you less cameras or this kind of policing or that kind of policing is it facebook or is it knife crime what do you care about you're not stupid you're not an idiot and indeed it is possible to transcend this hysterical endless conflict between uh muslims in the uk gay people versus straight it's pointless it's irrelevant it's abstract i care more about my dog dying than the horrors in gaza because when my dog dies i'm falling apart in grief and i'm coughing and i'm puking out and that's how god made me of course i should do everything in my power to prevent genocide and destruction and war and hypocrisy and lies but i've got a lot of that in house and until i deal with that i'm no good to anybody i'm no good to anybody maybe people in london shouldn't be thinking about israel palestine all the time maybe they should be thinking about how to run london themselves how do you want it run it's up to you what are you an idiot did you believe what they told you do you want to live in what they told you forever or do you want to take this precious gift of life granted to you by god or an unknown cosmic force of random molecular chance that somehow ended in your consciousness and everyone you love and grief and mourning and poetics and archetype and participate in it while you're here all too briefly unless you accept him repent and enter into eternity through him that's one route and yeah we've got a book about that also though you could be running your community if it's bothering you at all then the post epstein file release era we're still just like maybe we should have this one or that one what do you think like what we've been told they're mad occultists having sex with children on an island what do you need to know how much longer how much longer i'm just so glad there's the footage out there of me on youtube or on bill ma or wherever saying hey listen fox news is no worse than msnbc or no better you know it's out there i've said it on the television and i'm saying it now and i'm saying it now from a position of i recognize the position i'm in i recognize my own fallibility and brokenness i don't think i should be in charge i don't think anyone should be in charge they're all broken and fallen the problem with representative democracy is on that little horse ride from their constituency to congress or to westminster where 400 years ago representative democracy at least had a rational undergirding as well as no obvious technological solution it seems that other interests get in the ear of these people and say maybe would you vote this way or maybe would you never say that again or maybe shut your mouth right now and if we don't change that fundamental flaw then you're going to live in an endless whirling downward cycle a senseless spiral of their insanity which we could intervene in with the one gift we know we have consciousness love life glory inclusive of everyone beyond it's not your job to worry about whether someone's a muslim or a jew or an atheist or homosexual you worry about running your own life here you vote do you want that yes or no no okay 67 percent of people vote no we're not doing that anymore we want another vote okay we'll have another vote not like brexit where just keep voting until we can do what we were going to do anyway not like every single general election until all right even trump even someone who seems pretty in themselves eventually over time i thought it was a great post you did by the way like you know eventually like give him some grace that was great um like even someone like him can be just turned into whatever they want and then like the people that are ultra conspiratorial and i think probably closer to the truth than any of us would say we told you all along it doesn't matter who you vote for you're going to get the same results like in you know the macro picture you know the geopolitical picture better than anybody but i think the only way to do it is this thing that i'm starting to trust from being in your country the american people are beautiful they're brilliant they're not full of hatred i'm like down there in like the pan handle they're not they're not all like caught up in racism and bigotry they just want to love their families and stuff i saw a brilliant thing in my country the farmer movement in my country is lively hey the people love their land you know john bull john bull is like a british archetype yeah you know and like they're getting into it and it's kicking off as you will be obviously aware in ireland and like i saw something on the bbc it said like like in the countryside it's too white and farmers are too racist and it like made me laugh out loud because i thought like imagine being a farmer and the sort of graft involved the jobs the duty the toil the trial right we've got to get up we've got to plant those crops we've got to till that field we've got to feed those cows we've got to get in there and cleanse that soil for next year then i have to stop for a while burn some quran's then i've got to go then i've got to shout a hate language over a pro over a hedge into an adjacent field this field goes fallow this one here this one's for my bizarre rituals of racial hatred that's my homophobia barn farmers don't have time so they're telling you that people have got problems that they don't have the british countryside's white because that's where british white people have lived for ages now like we're making people hate one another for it's going to reach the kind of an absurd frequency and i feel that the i believe in him he's real so either i'll uh run for mayor of london and nothing will happen or i'll run for mayor of london and go jail or i'll run but what will happen if people talk is the idea of hold on a minute yeah hold on that technology they're saying will work for our digital id wait a minute that would work and then we wouldn't have dominion voting machines that might be maybe centrally corruptible and compromised you put the doctrine democracy in the hands of the people open source it the technology exists now that's why dear joe b weeks is on house arrest you should talk to that guy by the way he like he was a bitcoin entrepreneur he did some mining early on he got rich too quickly the fbi just came took all of his equipment put him in jail they've confiscated billions from this guy he's in priest under house arrest this day he's awaiting trial you should meet him so like we're in these areas of innovation the ingenuity exists the grace exists the righteousness exists the talent exists this whole country that came from like dirt and and paganism and in 250 years is the most powerful and unprecedented and glorious nation in history which by the way i think it is jerusalem now because if israel was the original people and paul says go to the gentiles and our lord says be a light to all nations and everyone will come from everywhere i mean it's starting to sound familiar and all of these row road entrepreneurs and all of these miners and this rich soil and the furriers and the trappiers and the banks and everything and then all of a a sudden it gets captured in a peculiar way that i don't quite understand and it's got another agenda this is a the greatest country in earth on earth this this this could be jerusalem but that won't happen with current institutional biases don't you reckon if the founding fathers of your nation were alive now they'd say what should we do to implement the changes that are possible now as a result of extraordinary advance russell brand how to become a christian in seven days i think it's pretty obvious that god is using you and uh i'm going to your trial oh good thanks october the 7th is it nice me is it actually october the 7th oh my god i didn't even see that yes it is your trial is october 7th you know one of my friends said to me from he goes he goes what i know about the state and the kind of interest we're talking around is they do things preemptively like they think right if we're going to take this course of action what are the potential obstacles in this reason all right well preemptively get rid of that one get rid of that one get rid of that one right those that's the puff i didn't realize yeah i assume your pre-trial hearing is on 9 11. i'm just guessing i don't know thank you for that thank you we're proud to launch our new bookstore with russell brands how to become a christian in seven days it is the message this country needs most find us today on tuckercarlsonbooks.com